b'Today we\\u2019re joined by J\\xfcrgen Schmidhuber, Co-Founder and Chief Scientist of NNAISENSE, the Scientific Director at IDSIA, as well as a Professor of AI at USI and SUPSI in Switzerland. J\\xfcrgen\\u2019s lab is well known for creating the Long Short-Term Memory (LSTM) network, and in this conversation, we discuss some of the recent research coming out of his lab, namely Upside-Down Reinforcement Learning.'