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b'Today we\\u2019re joined by Saiph Savage, a Visiting professor at the Human-Computer Interaction Institute at CMU, director of the HCI Lab at WVU, and co-director of the Civic Innovation Lab at UNAM.\\n We caught up with Saiph during NeurIPS where she delivered an insightful invited talk \\u201cA Future of Work for the Invisible Workers in A.I.\\u201d. In our conversation with Saiph, we gain a better understanding of the \\u201cInvisible workers,\\u201d or the people doing the work of labeling for machine learning and AI systems, and some of the issues around lack of economic empowerment, emotional trauma, and other issues that arise with these jobs.\\n We discuss ways that we can empower these workers, and push the companies that are employing these workers to do the same. Finally, we discuss Saiph\\u2019s participatory design work with rural workers in the global south.\\n The complete show notes for this episode can be found at twimlai.com/go/447.'