At various stages in his life, Charlie Hall has been a drummer,\nguitarist, keyboardist, teacher, and social worker. He tells Joe\nabout his Muppet drum set; the inner workings of The War On Drugs;\nhis fascination with group dynamics; and jazz hats. (The previous\nversion of this episode was corrupted. If you originally downloaded\nprior to Wed., 14:30 GMT, please re-download!)