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In episode four of this weeklong podcast series, Chuck Marohn talks with Andrew Burleson\xa0\u2014 software engineer, Strong Towns board chair, and frequent podcast guest \u2014\xa0 about the difference between a problem and a predicament, why conventional development can't pay for itself, and how auto-oriented cities are built on the assumption of never-ending sunny days.\xa0They also discuss how stretching our towns and cities are weakening the \u201cgravity" that holds people and places together, as well as the ways in which we are filling the gap with artificial energy.\n\xa0\nThen Chuck and Andrew tackle maybe the most controversial element of the Strong Towns approach: incrementalism. How was the incremental approach used by town makers of the past? And why has incremental development become standard operating procedure for tech companies in Silicon Valley \u2014 but not for the cities in Silicon Valley?\n\xa0\nThis discussion is inspired by Chuck\u2019s new book, which released earlier this week. The response we're getting to the book has been amazing. If you don\u2019t have your copy yet, you can find information about it\xa0here.