Ep. 204 - The SE ETC Series - FUD or Empathy - What Makes Better Security with David Sherry

Published: March 27, 2023, 6 a.m.

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [March 27, 2023]

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00:00 - Intro

00:18 - Patrick Laverty Intro

01:01 - Intro Links

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Social-Engineer.com\xa0- http://www.social-engineer.com/

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Managed Voice Phishing\xa0- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Managed Email Phishing\xa0- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Adversarial\xa0Simulations\xa0- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Social-Engineer channel on SLACK\xa0- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 CLUTCH\xa0- http://www.pro-rock.com/

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 innocentlivesfoundation.org\xa0- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

05:02 - David Sherry Intro

07:25 - Today's Topic: How to Develop a Culture of Top-Down Security

11:42 - The Weakest Link

14:03 - It's All About the "Report"

17:37 - Culture is Everything

20:28 - Zero to Sixty!

23:27 - Make it Personal

25:55 - MVP: Most Valuable People

27:33 - Empowerment through Education

37:11 - The Chicken or the Egg?

39:32 - Book Recommendations

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Project Zero Trust - George Finney

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Race After Technology - Ruha Benjamin

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends - Nicole Perlroth

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 The Indispensables - Patrick K. O'Donnell

43:02 - Find David Sherry Online

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Twitter: twitter.com/CISOatPrinceton

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/davidsherry

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Website: informationsecurity.princeton.edu

44:17 - Next Month: The History of VISHING

44:43 - Wrap Up & Outro

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Find us online

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Chris Hadnagy

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Twitter: @humanhacker

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Patrick Laverty

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Twitter: @plaverty9

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