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Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Haseeb Awan. Haseeb is the CEO & Founder of Efani Secure Mobile, a company that works with ultra-high-net-worth individuals on their Mobile Security. Previously, he co-founded one of the largest Bitcoin ATM networks. He has been featured on NYT, TechCrunch, Wall Street Journal, Hulu, and several international media outlets.\xa0 [Feb 20, 2023]

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00:00 - Intro

00:50 - Intro Links:

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03:55 - Haseeb Awan Intro

05:23 - What led you from Bitcoin to Sim Swapping?

10:10 - More Than Financial Loss

12:27 - Protecting Something Out of Your Control

14:06 - It's About More than the Price

16:52 - Security vs Convenience

20:00 - Explaining Without Scaring

24:26 - The Importance of Stories

26:15 - Consider It Insurance

28:38 - Will the TelCos Follow Suit?

31:19 - Tips for a More Secure Company

32:33 - Book Recommendations:

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34:08 - Find Haseeb Awan Online

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Twitter: https://twitter.com/haseeb

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 Twitter: https://twitter.com/efani

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/efani/

-\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 YouTube: https://youtube.com/@efani

34:52 - Wrap Up & Outro

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