Ep. 142 You Can Be Right And Still Be Wrong With Brian Phillips

Published: March 15, 2021, 6:09 a.m.

In this episode\xa0of the\xa0SECurity\xa0Awareness Series of the\xa0SEPodcast,\xa0Chris Hadnagy\xa0and\xa0Ryan MacDougall\xa0are joined by\xa0Brian Phillips who is\xa0responsible for\xa0information\xa0security at Macy\u2019s.\xa0Listen as they discuss\xa0how to:\xa0build\xa0an\xa0information security\xa0organization,\xa0hire the right people, and get buy-in from executives.\xa0 March 15, 2021

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00:09 \u2013 Intro\xa0

Social-Engineer.com\xa0

Phishing\xa0As\xa0A Service\xae\xa0

Vishing\xa0As\xa0A Service\xae\xa0

01:54 \u2013 Introduction to Brian Phillips\xa0

02:44\xa0\u2013\xa0Security in a retail environment\xa0and\xa0impacts from the pandemic\xa0

07:25 -\xa0How to build\xa0an\xa0information security organization from the ground up\xa0

10:14\xa0\u2013 Changing an organization's mindset for better security\xa0

14:20 \u2013 The\xa0most\xa0desirable\xa0quality\xa0in a team member, and how to\xa0recognize\xa0it\xa0in\xa0an\xa0interview\xa0

18:21\xa0\u2013 How to nurture an outsider into a security professional\xa0

22:48 - How to align corporate security initiatives with business goals\xa0

Never Split the Difference: Negotiating\xa0As\xa0If Your Life Depended\xa0On\xa0It\xa0

26:38 \u2013 The importance\xa0of buy-in from the C-level down, and how to get it.\xa0

38:13 \u2013 Key takeaways that corporations should start doing now\xa0

40:17 \u2013 Brian\u2019s most respected colleagues\xa0

Dave Kennedy\xa0

Ed\xa0Skoudis\xa0

John Strand\xa0

Rob Fuller\xa0

Carlos Perez\xa0

42:14 \u2013 Brian's book\xa0recommendations\xa0

Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It\xa0

Thinking, Fast and Slow\xa0

Human Hacking: Win Friends, Influence People, and Leave Them Better Off for Having Met You\xa0

How to Win Friends & Influence People\xa0

Robin\xa0Dreke's\xa0Books:\xa0
Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agent's User Manual for Behavior Prediction\xa0

It's Not All About Me: The Top Ten Techniques for Building Quick Rapport with Anyone\xa0

The Code of Trust: An American Counterintelligence Expert's Five Rules to Lead and Succeed\xa0

Joe Navarro\u2019s Books:\xa0

Be Exceptional: Master the Five Traits That Set Extraordinary People Apart\xa0

The Dictionary of Body Language: A Field Guide to Human Behavior\xa0

What\xa0Every Body\xa0Is Saying: An Ex-FBI Agent's Guide to Speed-Reading People\xa0

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Leaders Eat Last: Why Some Teams Pull Together and Others Don't\xa0

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44:03 \u2013 Conclusion\xa0

Ryan on Twitter\xa0

Brian on Twitter\xa0

Chris on Twitter\xa0

Social-Engineer.org\xa0\xa0

Social-Engineer.com\xa0

The Innocent Lives Foundation\xa0

Clutch\xa0