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Naomi Fry, a staff writer and co-host of the New Yorker podcast Critics at Large, joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss her impressions of Stormy Daniels\u2019s testimony in the hush-money trial of former President Donald Trump. Having spent weeks doing a deep dive on the adult-film star\u2019s life, Fry explains her understanding of Daniels\u2019s motivations in accepting the hush money and what the sordid tale says about American culture today.
This week\u2019s reading:

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• \nStormy Daniels\u2019s American Dream, by Naomi Fry
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• \nCan You Believe What Michael Cohen Just Said at the Trump Trial?, by Eric Lach
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