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Published: April 2, 2020, 4:39 a.m.

Epidemiologist Michael LeVasseur and data scientist Michael Donnelly join the show to discuss the path of coronavirus pandemic.\xa0 We talk about how various countries have responded to the pandemic and which have been successful, what specific factors make coronavirus a once-in-a-century threat, and which human interventions have the highest impact.\xa0 We also discuss the essay 'The Hammer and the Dance' as a potential path forward, and talk about how we can eventually recover parts of normal life and how the pandemic eventually ends.

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