The Defence Minister says there's still a lot of groundwork to lay before any decision on AUKUS is made. \xa0
Judith Collins and Foreign Minister Winston Peters will meet with their Australian counterparts in Melbourne today. \xa0
She says that while other topics will be on the agenda, the defence and interests of New Zealand in the Pacific will come first. \xa0
Collins told Mike Hosking that New Zealand doesn't yet have enough information on pillar two of AUKUS. \xa0
She said that's because AUKUS members are still trying to figure out how New Zealand could fit into the agreement.\xa0
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