Brew Johnson & Brett Crosby - "We Have Long-Term Aspirations of Disrupting the Entire Mortgage Finance and Securitization Market" | #32

Published: Dec. 7, 2016, 6 p.m.

b'Episode 32 is like no other we\\u2019ve done to date. Local guys, Brew and Brett, run a startup in nearby Manhattan Beach \\u2013 and it\\u2019s disrupting the real estate financing market. It\\u2019s not long into the episode before the guys give us the overview of how it works.\\nPeer Street invests in real estate debt. Now, when most people try this, there are too many intermediaries. The effect is the yield is stripped out. Peer Street is fixing this, focusing on short-term, high interest rate loans. The guys\\u2019 vision is to enable investing in real estate lending to be as easy as buying a stock through an online broker.\\nAfter giving us their fascinating professional backgrounds prior to starting Peer Street, Brew and Brett dive into how the process work.\\nThere\\u2019s always been a shadow, niche market in this space. A real estate investor finds a good property that he/she is able to fix up and sell/rent. But to make the deal happen, the developer has to move quickly, and doesn\\u2019t have time to get a traditional loan through a bank. In steps a reputable cash lender, enabling the deal. Brew and Brett are enabling retail investors to take part in these localized real estate deals.\\nMeb asks about the range on yields\\u2026 how many current deals they have\\u2026 just general top-down metrics to paint the broad picture.\\nSince the end of Oct 2015, the guys have opened around $200M of loans. The average yield to investors is 8.5% net of fees and expenses. The average loan duration is 10 months. And the average loan-to-value ratio is 65%.\\nThe guys then discuss how deals are vetted. There are approval processes, several layers of underwriting, a requirement wherein lenders have to commit their own capital, various data analytics, then stress testing of the loans.\\nMeb asks what would happen to these loans in a real estate Armageddon situation.\\nThe Peer Street guys tell us they use as much data as possible to mitigate potential losses. And these are only 10-month loans, so to lose money, the borrower has to stop making payments and the value of the property has to decrease by about 35%. To try to protect against this, they run algorithms and compare the data to previous cycles. Then they consider what was the worst decline in that submarket. This helps them do a manual underwrite of the loan, after which they get an appraisal from an independent 3rd party. There\\u2019s far more on how the guys manage risk which you\\u2019ll want to hear.\\nNext, the conversation steers toward how an investor would actually take part in the deals. He/she can pick from, typically, 3-15 available deals at a time. Or investors can set up an automated system, establishing parameters from which Peer Street would match them with the right investments. Ten or more loans at a time is recommended for diversification, with the minimum investment being $1,000.\\nThere\\u2019s way more in this episode, including Brew\\u2019s and Brett\\u2019s vision for how disruptive this could be, where this type of investment would fit into an asset allocation model, and an \\u201cimposter Cambria\\u201d that has Meb very angry. Curious why? Find out in Episode 32.\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices'