Life is busy and sometimes it feels like it won’t get any easier. In the midst of so many things it’s easy to get overwhelmed. When that happens the last thing we can find time for is for relaxation. So how can we find time to relax when we are so busy with everything going on in our lives? And what does relaxation looks like in those circumstances? Lisa convenes with the Council of Moms and talks to Thomas McConkie, host of the Mindfulness+ podcast, to find out.