Episode 516: A Boomer and a Millennial on the Future of the Church with Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley

Published: July 6, 2022, 10 a.m.

Although the Religious Right is on a winning streak at the Supreme Court, data shows it\u2019s losing in the court of public opinion. Gallop reports more Americans than ever no longer believe in God, and only a minority of Americans share the political and cultural beliefs of conservative evangelicals. The Holy Post crew responds to a Jesuit priest\u2019s article wondering if overturning Roe was worth the costs, and congresswoman Lauren Boebert says the church should be running the government. But which church does she have in mind? Then Skye talks to mother and daughter, Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley, about their book \u201cNext Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church.\u201d Nancy pioneered the seeker-driven megachurch movement at Willow Creek, but also experienced its toxicity and collapse. Her daughter, Samantha, is now a pastor seeking to apply the lessons\u2014both positive and negative\u2014from her megachurch upbringing to a new generation. Plus, the New York Supreme Court makes a jumbo ruling.

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News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:21 - Christian\u2019s travelogue and other updates
5:45 - Happy the Elephant
14:03 - More SCOTUS rulings
23:27 - Christian Right losing in public opinion
30:38 - Costs of overturning Roe
46:07 - Americans\u2019 belief in God is dropping

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Interview with Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley


\u201cNext Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church\u201d - https://amzn.to/3nHnA68

Nancy Beach - http://www.nancylbeach.com/

Samantha Beach Kiley - www.samanthabeach.work

56:04 - Relevance and trust
1:03:24 - Beyond content delivery
1:08:02 - Experiencing other traditions
1:10:59 - Blind spots and overcorrecting
1:18:00 - Church leadership culture
1:27:42 - Credits

Articles referenced in news segment:
\u201cHappy the elephant is not a person, New York\u2019s highest court rules\u201d - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/happy-the-elephant-is-not-a-person-new-yorks-highest-court-rules

\u201cThe Christian Right is winning in court while losing in public opinion\u201d (NPR) - https://www.npr.org/2022/07/01/1109141110/the-christian-right-is-winning-cultural-battles-while-public-opinion-disagrees

\u201cWhat has the demise of Roe v. Wade cost the Catholic Church?\u201d by Thomas Reese (Religion News Service) - https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/what-has-demise-roe-v-wade-cost-catholic-church

\u201cPoll: Americans\u2019 belief in God is dropping\u201d - https://religionnews.com/2022/06/21/poll-americans-belief-in-god-is-dropping/

Resource mentioned in interview:
\u201cThe Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters\u201d by Priya Parker - https://amzn.to/3akrxui


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