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Producer Max is on vacation and we go off the rails. In this episode of the HolderMESS podcast we talk all about Penn's plan to write a musical, the song he wrote to kick it off (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5uMMsIYRKA) and how lowering your expectations may save your sanity.\xa0

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