TGCL #0486: LIVE from Rome: Mass for Election of a New Pope and the Conclave begins!

Published: March 12, 2013, 8 p.m.

Summary of today\u2019s show: Events in Rome reached their penultimate phase as the cardinals celebrated the Mass for the Election of a New Pope and then entered the Sistine Chapel for their first vote. Scot Landry welcomed Fr. Roger Landry, Terry Donilon, and Jay Fadden to discuss the events of the day, including their experience of the beauty and universality of the Church during the Mass and the obvious gravity and focus with which the cardinal-electors are taking their duty. Terry also talked about Cardinal Se\xe1n and all the intense media focus on him in these day. George Martell then joined Scot to discuss some of his photos which have been gathering national interest.\nListen to the show:\n\nWatch the show via live video streaming or a recording later: \nToday\u2019s host(s): Scot Landry\nToday\u2019s guest(s): Fr. Roger Landry, Terry Donilon, Jay Fadden, George Martell\nLinks from today\u2019s show:\n\n\n\n\n\n\nToday\u2019s topics: LIVE from Rome: Mass for Election of a New Pope and the Conclave begins!\n1st segment: Scot Landry welcomed Fr. Roger Landry to the show and they discussed the procession of the cardinal-electors to the Sistine Chapel. Fr. Roger said many of the cardinals know that this is one of the most significant acts of their lives. The show was recorded about an hour and a half prior to the procession into the chapel. Fr. Roger said the cardinals will be led in a meditation by an older cardinal on their responsibility.\nToday\u2019s vote is important to show after all the conversations behind the scenes who the first and best choice is. He predicts that the decision for most cardinals will be between best and better candidates. He said a lot of times the cardinal who comes out with the most votes first isn\u2019t the eventual winner and so they turn to their second choices on their lists.\nThey discussed the selection of Cardinal Prosper Grech of Malta as the one to lead them in the meditation. The means by which he\u2019s chosen for this task isn\u2019t in law, just that there would be someone to lead them in this meditation. It\u2019s the second of two homilies they receive. Earlier this week, they heard from Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa.\nIf there\u2019s no result after 14 votes they will hear from the senior member of the cardinal-deacons. After 7 more, from the senior cardinal-priest and 7 more from the senior cardinal-bishop.\nScot said the cardinals swear an oath as they place their ballot in the receptacle and that process takes at least an hour. Fr. Roger said a cardinal told him that the rest of the cardinals pray their rosaries or pray the Divine Office. In 1978, during the election of John Paul I, Cardinal Wojtyla would be writing the first part of his Theology of the Body. However, today the rule is that all papers on the cardinals\u2019 desks must be burned as well.\nScot said after the voting, three cardinal-scrutineers count the ballots to make sure there are 115. Then they read each one aloud. He asked Fr. Roger what it\u2019s like to hear their name announced, given the heaviness of the what they\u2019re called to. Fr. Roger said Pope Benedict said hearing his name called was like a guillotine falling on his neck. To hear your name mentioned would feel like a compliment. All the other votes would be overwhelming especially as the momentum tends to build. Most people are in elections to win it, but in an election like this, it would be the opposite. Relief would come from hearing someone else\u2019s name being announced.\nScot said after the voting, the cardinals go back to the Domus Sancta Marta. What happens? Do they talk about it? Fr. Roger said some cardinals have said in 2005, they went to the chapel to pray and there are reports of finding cardinals in the chapel in the middle of the night. There\u2019s talk over dinner while others go back to their rooms to read and avoid the conversations. He thinks some will sleep better than normal and some who won\u2019t sleep at all.\nFr. Roger said EWTN\u2019s coverage of the day\u2019s event will be repeated at 9pm and streamed online.\n2nd segment: Scot said he is reporting from the top of the Augustinianem overlooking St. Peter\u2019s Square. He said the cardinals were gathering in the Pauline Chapel to prepare to process into the Sistine Chapel. Terry Donilon, Secretary for Communications for the Archdiocese of Boston, joins him now. Scot said they gathered for a sendoff of the American Cardinals at the North American College at 7am. He said some people think the next pope might have been on that bus.\nTerry said if we believe what\u2019s been in the Italian press, there\u2019s been a vigorous mention of Cardinal Se\xe1n. He said the cardinal was his natural quiet reserved self and Cardinal Dolan was his natural boisterous self.\nScot said all of these cardinals have led their large archdioceses and they all say this is the most significant decision they\u2019ve made. Thinking of all his biggest life decisions, it\u2019s amazing what the cardinals must be going through. Terry said their previous biggest decision was answering the call to become a priest. He said Cardinal Se\xe1n has consistently answered the call for difficult assignments throughout his life.\nTerry has been busy in Rome in recent days as international news organization want to know more about Cardinal Se\xe1n. Terry said it\u2019s rewarding to be able to explain this cardinal who is real. He is the same in private as he is in front of the camera. He said he\u2019s pleased there\u2019s so much attention of the media back home on this. It\u2019s nice to see the secular media showing the Church is relevant and important to the people.\nScot noted that at 9:45 this morning, they started praying a rosary in many languages in St. Peter\u2019s Basilica for the cardinals. Terry noticed during the rosary that the Swiss Guard was praying during the rosary too. He said he also noticed the media following the cardinal at his titular church the other going to Mass as well, which he wasn\u2019t used to in the US.\nScot said Cardinal Dolan was in a good mood and gestured to him while other cardinals looked very solemn. Scot said the congregation was the most diverse crowd he\u2019s ever been in and it represented the universal Church. Terry said the cardinals likewise represent the diversity of the Church. He said that\u2019s one of the reasons Cardinal Se\xe1n stands out, because of his Irish background but close association with Portuguese and Spanish-speaking people.\nScot said during the Mass he gave thanks to God for being lucky enough to be in the room and praying for the prayer requests people are sending to . Terry said what stood out for him was the music and the Latin chant. He said it added a lot of energy that we\u2019re on the threshold of something important that is out of the ordinary experience. He loves music and loves the music of the Church. Every time he walks in the basilica he gives thanks for the those he loves and it\u2019s a spiritual experience. But to be there in person is remarkable.\nScot said he and George Martell were sitting very tightly packed and they discussed how they would receive Communion. But even in that jungle to receive Communion, as disorganized as it was, it really worked. It was moving to him to see people of all ages and all origins to be patient and helpful to one another.\nTerry was struck by the great number of people who were just milling about in the sides and people were very respectful. \\\nScot said the cardinals are in the silent period. Cardinal Se\xe1n left his iPhone with his cardinal secretary at the North American College. He asked what people will see in the local media. Terry said they will be reporting on all the various angles. The Church is a complicated story. Terry thinks Cardinal Se\xe1n is being celebrated at home for all his pastoral achievements. Everyone he\u2019s talked to on the national scene has said what a wonderful priest he is. He thinks they will also report on the rumor mills and unfortunately treat it a little bit like a political campaign. He hopes it shows that the Church is relevant with 1.2 billion Catholics and 1.8 million in Boston.\nScot said many of the local Boston media are reporting that Cardinal Se\xe1n is thought to be a frontrunner, but it\u2019s not the Italian people doing the voting. He asked how do people who love and admire Cardinal Se\xe1n deal with it if he\u2019s not the one who comes out on the balcony later this week. Terry said selfishly we want him to come home. Nobody really wants the job of pope, but Cardinal Se\xe1n will do what\u2019s asked of him. He thinks perhaps now we\u2019ve turned a corner of people getting to know him and that will help with his commitment to the New Evangelization back home.\nScot said when the smoke comes from the chimney he\u2019s either going to be in the square waiting to see if it\u2019s black or white or he\u2019s going to be nearby and listen for the bells that signal white smoke. Terry said he\u2019s too stressed to wait and will be in the square. Terry said he thinks the final vote will be Thursday. Scot said he found out at lunch that Friday is the Ides of March and if the vote is that day, there will be a lot of headlines.\nScot thinks it will be Thursday evening and then it\u2019s likely the Mass of Inauguration will be on the Feast of St. Joseph, Tuesday, March 19. He\u2019s the Patron of the Universal Church and it\u2019s a national holiday. Terry said he just hopes the sun shines on that day.\n3rd segment: Scot welcomed Jay Fadden of CatholicTV and they noted they just heard Cardinal Se\xe1n take his oath in the conclave. Scot said the pageantry of the procession of the Litany of Saints and the praying of the Veni, Sancte Spiritus was beautiful. Jay said there was a change today at the moment of the procession. The weight of the decision these men will make was on them and they have become very focused. A man started to clap for the cardinals and one of them motioned for him to stop.\nHe said in the Square, hundreds of people are standing in the pouring rain and watching the events on the giant monitors set up there. Scot said they show the universality of the Church.\nScot said the Mass in the morning was beautiful. Jay said what stood out for him was the people in the basilica. There were so many young people, especially young nuns. He noted that during Communion people knelt on the stone floor until the cardinals had all received Communion. Scot said it\u2019s now pouring in the Square but people don\u2019t want to leave because it\u2019s an historic moment and the next time we see the cardinals, we will have a new pope. Jay said it\u2019s amazing to watch. One of those men will be the new leader of the Catholic Church.\nScot said in the morning Jay was with them at the North American College to see the American cardinals boarding their bus for the conclave. He said they are supporting each other and preparing for this momentous decision together. Jay said the seminarians lined the street and clapped and cheered the cardinals as they left because they were recognizing the difficulty of this decision because of the enormity of what they will do. They\u2019re not electing a CEO, but a spiritual leader.\nJay said CatholicTV in Rome is doing blogs and live Skype shots back to Boston. They\u2019re also filming many segments for other programs and interviewing people as well to make the trip worthwhile.\nJay said he keeps bumping into people he knows. He bumped into Msgr. Connie McRae and other people from Boston, including those who have moved to Rome. He said they\u2019re friends because they\u2019re all part of this universal Church.\nScot said the first ballot will be in an hour and then another hour for the smoke. He asked how long Jay thought how long the conclave will take. He guessed three days because it\u2019s been a long time since it\u2019s gone more than three days. The cardinals have the advantage of having been there eight to ten days talking to one another and thinking about it for at least a month. Scot repeated that he\u2019s been predicting Friday all week until he realized that Friday is the Ides of March and no cardinal wants to come out on the Ides of March, so he thinks it\u2019s Thursday. Jay said he hopes it\u2019s Thursday because he wants a new Holy Father.\nScot asked Jay how people could watch CatholicTV. He said people can use SkyAngel, CatholicTV.com, Roku, or iPhone and Android apps. He is also blogging at . They both said they\u2019re blogging for the first time.\n4th segment: Scot welcomed George Martell to the show. They discussed how bad the weather has been in Rome, unusually bad. George said it makes taking photos more difficult, to capture those faces and the emotion. Scot said other media are able to use George\u2019s photos in their publications. One of George\u2019s photos from yesterday, of the cardinals on the bus, has gotten very wide distribution. He had gone to the North American College to use their Internet. He noticed the bus outside and went out to a lobby where some of the cardinals were gathering. He acted like a fly on the wall and then chatted a bit with Cardinal Se\xe1n. Suddenly they all got on the bus, so George followed them on even though he wasn\u2019t sure. He asked Cardinal Se\xe1n if he thought it would be okay and he said sure. It turned out to be a great photo. Scot said it looked to him that Cardinal Dolan was joking in the back of the bus.\n\nToday, Scot said they had a group photo and George was able to take a photo of them before the very serious moments in the Sistine Chapel. George said Cardinal Dolan was very jovial and he thinks another man there was the cardinal\u2019s brother. Scot said the back story is that this man is wearing jeans because the cardinal\u2019s brother\u2019s luggage had been lost.\nMeanwhile Cardinal Se\xe1n was, if not serious, deeply in the moment because he understands the import of what he\u2019s doing. Scot described him as intense. It\u2019s an important day and a heavy vote. It will be a long day too.\n\nScot said he also liked another photo of a man holding a homemade sign calling for Pope Francis I.\n\nHe also captured photos of a Swiss Guard being playful with some kids.\n\nThey talked about the beauty of the art and architecture and the beauty of the faith of the people praying in those buildings. It makes it easy to capture the intensity they\u2019re feeling in that moment.