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\u201cI can\u2019t breathe\u201d has become a powerful phrase to symbolize the problem of systemic racism and unchecked prejudiced violence in our country. It\u2019s also a powerful metaphor for the weight of how people feel when it comes to the social, economic, and healthcare inequalities that continue to thrive. And in the age of COVID-19, we keep hearing people say they can\u2019t wait to get back to normal. But if this is what normal has looked like, do we really want it? It\u2019s time for us to get more involved than ever before to create a new normal that includes social justice, civil rights, and compassion.\nOn this episode of The Doctor\u2019s Farmacy, I talked with John Grossenbacher about how to begin this reimagining of America and so much more. John is a Navy veteran, was the Captain of a nuclear attack submarine, and rose to be a Vice Admiral and Commander of the US Submarine Forces. Following the Navy, John became the Director of the Department of Energy\u2019s Idaho National Laboratory (INL). INL is a sprawling industrial-scale research facility that covers 900 square miles and employs 4,000 people. There he led science and engineering research in energy, environmental, national, and homeland security fields. He also advised Governors, Senators, Congressmen, state, and local leaders in the region and Canada on energy, environmental, and homeland security matters.\nHere are more of the details from our interview:\xa0\n\nSaving the idea of America (3:08)\n\nMonopolization of wealth and industry in America (5:29)\n\nManaging our way out of the coronavirus pandemic with competence and compassion (8:37)\n\nReforming America\u2019s broken systems (12:26)\n\nThey mythology of America and the American dream (16:28)\n\nCreating a culture of values (22:55)\n\nThe impact of technology on our lives (25:39)\n\nDo we really want to get back to normal? (28:48)\n\nReforming the food system and why you can\u2019t separate the food system from politics (32:13)\n\nLearning from history and science, and John\u2019s book recommendations include, \u201cAmerican Gospel\u201d by John Meacham, \u201cThinking in Systems\u201d by Donella H. Meadows, and \u201cTrust\u201d by Francis Fukuyama (48:53)\n\n \nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices