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Ok, let\u2019s get real. Is 12 Monkeys really too convoluted for its own good? Does La Jet\xe9e still work all these decades later, when we are used to more bombastic sci-fi moviemaking? What possessed patron Stu Willis to task us to tackle both of these puzzle-box films? We talk Oscars, performances, and what connects Julio to Terry Gilliam\u2019s most mainstream movie\u2026 all in this Real Talk segment!

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00:00:59 Now on Patreon

00:09:20 Real Talk

01:02:20 The Future & Perennial Plugs

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Up next, the Patreon Takeover takes a less fantastical turn, as patron Coldstone Steve Austin demands we close May by covering the serious road trip PARIS, TEXAS! Until then, let us know what you thought of La Jet\xe9e and 12 Monkeys: Is one creepier than the other? Do people need to talk more about this Bruce Willis performance? Should Brad had won the Oscar? E-mail us at wearethecontrarians@gmail.com or tweet at us or facebook us and share your thoughts!