E36: Your Model, Your Weights with MosaicML's Abhi Venigalla and Jonathan Frankle

Published: June 16, 2023, 4:54 p.m.

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Jonathan Frankle, Chief Scientist, and Abhi Venigalla, Research Scientist of MosaicML. They chat about Mosaic\u2019s custom LLMs, the customers seeking Mosaic out and what their journeys and use cases look like, and exciting developments in Mosaic\u2019s research: including their new inference platform, as well as Mosaic\u2019s MPT-7B-65k+ storywriter model.\n\nRECOMMENDED PODCAST:\nThe HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses \u2013 and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows \u2013 IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix\u2019s culture deck Patty McCord.\nhttps://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics\n\nThe Cognitive Revolution is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: www.turpentine.co\n\nTIMESTAMPS:\n(00:00) Episode Preview\n(06:04) Mosaic\u2019s business model\n(07:28) Who uses Mosaic\u2019s custom LLMs? What does their data look like?\n(09:55)Mosaic\u2019s use cases for custom LLMs\n(12:47) How much extraction and summarization was done by humans pre-LLMs?\n(15:28) Sponsor: Omneky\n(21:50) The journeys of Mosaic\u2019s customers and would a Wendy\u2019s LLM know about a Big Mac?\n(25:46) The curriculum model and fine-tuning\n(29:10) Language models in the life sciences\n(33:20) How raw can data be before it becomes a problem?\n(35:44) Using the output of bulk pre-training process vs additional after training\n(38:30) Redteaming as a service\n(39:40) Mosaic\u2019s inference platform\n(41:53) Spending one cent on 20,000 tokens, how is that cent distributed?\n(46:00)) Selling compute on a dedicated capacity basis\n(47:30) Oracle and AWS\n(49:50) The storywriter model and 65,000 token window\n(54:35) The transition from finite parameters into infinite attention matrix\n\nLINKS:\nMosaicML: https://www.mosaicml.com/\nMPT-7B Storywriter Model: https://huggingface.co/mosaicml/mpt-7b-storywriter\n\nTWITTER:\n@jefrankle (Jonathan)\n@abhi_venigalla (Abhi)\n@MosaicML (Mosaic)\n@CogRev_Podcast\n@labenz (Nathan)\n@eriktorenberg (Erik)\n\nSPONSORS:\nShopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system \u2013 wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts \u2013 from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive\n\nThank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.\n\nThis show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture \u2014 all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We\u2019re launching new shows every week, and we\u2019re looking for industry-leading sponsors \u2014 if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.\nMusic Credit: MusicLM