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Today we have a special treat. A conversation with Brian Kernighan! Brian\u2019s been in the software game since the beginning of Unix. Yes, he was there at Bell Labs when it all began. And he is still at it today, writing books and teaching the next generation at Princeton. This is an epic and wide ranging conversation. You\u2019ll hear about the birth of Unix, Ken Thompson\u2019s unique skillset, why Brian thinks C has stood the test of time, his thoughts on modern languages like Go and Rust, what\u2019s changed in 50 years of software, what makes platforms like Unix and the web so powerful, his take as a professor on the trend of programmers skipping the university track, and so much more. Seriously, this is a must-listen.