b"Jordan Eldredge joined the show to talk with us about Winamp2-js \\u2014 a reimplementation of Winamp 2.9 in HTML5 and Javascript. For many of our listeners, talking about Winamp may bring to mind some extreme nostalgia about the internet of the past ... and it's certainly that way for Jerod and I. Jordan started this project in 2014 and it's what ultimately got the attention of some folks at Facebook, where he now works on Nuclide.\\n\\nWe shared stories about Winamp back in the day, actually listening to music as an mp3, the technical hurdles and learning Jordan has experienced, skinning it, playlists, making it a frontend for Spotify -- which is so ironic to actually say. Also, Jerod has been hacking it via livestream on Twitch to add it as an alternate audio player on Changelog.com."