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Rob and Gavin share their journey as leaders individually and as CEOs of Artifact Group. Having recently celebrated thriller company\u2019s tenth anniversary, we discuss how growing to a 60 team member company has required adjustments to their strategies.

We also discuss:

-What kind of work is so important that even clients can\u2019t interrupt it

-How they have transitioned from doing design work (client work) to leading a team

-How developing a product for agencies affected them internally and why it became a spin off company (10000ft.com)

-The constant adaptations required as they look at emerging technologies

-Which kinds of companies need to devote resources to R&D

-The new skills needed by leadership as companies reach various stages of growth

-What it means to create an organization that will live on after you