Creative director, advisor, designer, developer, author (Pricing Design), speaker, mentor, musician, and entrepreneur (SuperFriendly, SuperBooked) Dan Mall is Jeffrey Zeldman\u2019s guest. Running a studio, pitching, value pricing, the apprentice program, \u201cMake Grunt do it,\u201d how to start a startup, \u201cthe most exciting design systems are boring,\u201d walking away from big pitches, launching a service to help you find work.
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