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On the show today we welcome Dan and Dawn Williams, master-slave couple, kink enthusiasts podcast hosts and authors of the new book Living M/S! Our guests unpack their own experiences of discovering their submissive and dominant sides and how they found each other and each other's limits.

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They explain some basics about the master-slave dynamic and how it fits into the broader world of BDSM and kink play. They explain the important role of trust and the things that are pivotal in making a relationship like theirs work. We talk a bit about the events, parties and activities which they enjoy and Dan and Dawn are so open and honest, explaining the erotic nature of their lives.

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The conversation also covers, shame, abusive relationships and how sharing stories, using cards and watching porn can help certain couples.

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• Dan and Dawn's awakening to their dominant and submissive sides.
• A little bit about how their master-salve relationship works.
• Earning trust and taking responsibility for mistakes.\xa0
• Contrasting Dawns and Dan's average day with other relationships.
• Parties, dungeons and the BDSM play that the couple enjoy.
• The parts of play that each of them engage with.
• Considering the erotic and non-erotic elements of play.
• Some of the issues of shame related to submission.\xa0
• Comparing a sub-dom relationship with an abusive relationship.
• The helpful act of sharing naughty stories and porn.\xa0
• And much more!

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\u201cIn our case, it happens to be a male led relationship where I happen to be in charge. What that means is that I take responsibility for everything in the relationship.\u201d [0:03:45]

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\u201cIf something needs to be addressed, it\u2019s addressed head on instead of sideways. It\u2019s a very authentic relationship where we\u2019ve decided, what do we want this relationship to be.\u201d [0:11:05]

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Bad Girls Bible Newsletter \u2014 https://badgirlsbible.com/newsletter

Erotic Awakening Podcast \u2014 http://www.eroticawakening.com

Dan and Dawn Email \u2014 dananddawn@eroticawakening.com.

Living MS \u2014 https://www.amazon.com/Living-Masters-slaves-Their-Relationships/dp/1610981952/

The Kink Starter \u2014 http://www.eroticawakening.com/kinkstarter/