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Seven years ago, my guest today published what has become an underground cult classic on masculinity. His name is Jack Donovan and that book was The Way of Men. I had him on the podcast a few years ago to discuss it \u2014 check it out if you haven\u2019t listened to it. In The Way of Men, Donovan argued that for men to really live what he calls the \u201ctactical virtues\u201d of masculinity, they needed to join an all-male honor group, or what he calls a gang or tribe. In his latest book, Becoming a Barbarian, Donovan lays out what creating these honor groups would look like.\nOn today\u2019s show, Jack and I discuss why masculinity is often tragic, why today\u2019s modern world makes it hard for men to form male honor groups, the difference between a club and a tribe, and what it means to start the world.