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Dr. Brad McLain is a social scientist interested in the nature and psychology of identity development, learning, and leadership.\nHe is the Director of the Center for STEM Learning at the University of Colorado Boulder, and a Senior Researcher and Director of Corporate Research at the National Center for Women in Information Technology, \n\nI reached out to Dr. McLain after reading a chapter he wrote about identity construction in informal science educators.\n\nIn this episode, we discuss identity theory. We discuss what informal science educators have in common with independent environmental education professionals, Dr. McLain\u2019s work as chair of Dr. Jane Goodall\u2019s US Roots & Shoots program, and his current research dedicated to the design of transformative experiences.\n\nWhat is identity theory?\n\nHow do transformative experiences work?\n\nLet\u2019s find out.