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Supper Club Shipping ESM with Mark Erikson
In this supper club episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with Mark Erikson about his work in helping others understand shipping ESM, how to deal with permutations, whether default imports are helpful, whether TypeScript has made it easier, and what Mark\u2019s tool stack is for building.
Show Notes- 00:36 Welcome
- 01:45 Introducing Shipping ESM with Mark Erikson
- Mark Erikson (@acemarke)
- Wes Bos on Twitter: \u201cpublishing packages that work in esm and cjs is such a nightmare. I\u2019ve run into so many issues today and took forever to get the proper package.json exports. I can\u2019t wait until we\u2019re 100% esm. I think I have every single combo covered.\u201d
- Mark\u2019s Dev Blog
- Blogged Answers: My Experience Modernizing Packages to ESM
- Greatest Hits: The Most Popular and Most Useful Posts I\u2019ve Written
- arethetypeswrong.github.io: Tool for analyzing TypeScript types of npm packages
- publint
- 07:01 How did we get to this space in modules?
- 16:30 How do you deal with permutations?
- 22:13 Do bundlers get in the way or helping?
- 26:16 Are default imports useful?
- 30:35 Are the types wrong errors
- 33:41 Has TypeScript made this easier?
- 37:56 What\u2019s your tool stack for building?
- 39:32 How do you test?
- 41:35 Will we ever stop bundling?
- 48:03 What about source maps?
- 52:32 Supper Club Questions
- What is Windows Subsystem for Linux
- Eagle Oceanic Next
- DroidSansMono NF Font
- 55:18 React Types has more downloads than React?
- 59:42 SIIIIICK \xd7\xd7\xd7 PIIIICKS \xd7\xd7\xd7