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Apple's new services, the cost of Oprah, and Huawei's pocket periscope
Stuff editor-in-chief Toby Shapshak and Stuff editor Craig Wilson settle down in a quiet corner of Stuff HQ to talk about Apple's big services announcement, what Apple News+, Apple Card, Apple Arcade and Apple TV+ mean for the company and consumers, and how Huawei's continuing to display its ambitions of smartphone supremacy with the P30 Pro.