In this episode we discuss the how you can have the confidence to change code that is live and in use, even when operating something as sensitive as a bank.\n\nHow can engineers be empowered to make necessary changes to the code? How can you be sure that failures won\u2019t occur? And is testing important? (spoilers: yes)\n\nWith Starling Director of Technology Steve Newson, Head of Testing Daniel Webb, and your regular host Jason Maude.