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\u201cIf a bill has been passed in another state, then you know who the opposition was, you know who the supporters were. And it really helps grease the skids for another state to get something through. It builds and then eventually you get a critical mass. And then hopefully at that point, Congress takes a look at it and passes something nationwide.\u201d \u2013 Roland Halpern

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Last week, Allie Taylor was on the podcast. She runs New York Voters for Animal Rights. Allie and I spoke about how real change happens for animals in the US and that much of it happens at the local level.

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The problem is that many people just don't know where to start or how to get involved so that they can actually affect said change. So, Allie and I agreed that it\u2019d be a good idea to bring on some other people running organizations that are similar to hers from other states.

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So that is what we did. This conversation is again with Allie Taylor from Voters for Animal Rights of New York, Roy Afflerbach of Pennsylvania, Roland Halpern from Colorado, and Jo-Anne Basile of Connecticut.

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It's a conversation about how and where change happens.

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New York: https://vfar.org/

Colorado: https://covotersforanimals.org/

Connecticut: https://www.ctvotesforanimals.org/

Pennsylvania: https://humane-pa.org/about-us/about/senator-roy-afflerbach-ret/