Show 53 is an interview with Capers Jones discussing software measurement. As with any conversation with Capers we explored a wide range of topics in the software development world.\xa0 As usual, Capers was his provocative self! Capers biography is long and storied.\xa0 Let it be said that Capers is a serial author (he currently working on book 16).\xa0 Capers founded Software Process Research.\xa0 He is a public speaker, pundit, guru, and deep thinker. Capers can be contacted at CJonesIII@cs.com Join the SPaMCAST\u2019s community by joining the SPaMCAST Facebook page and get involved!!!!\xa0 http://tinyurl.com/62z5el The essay is titled \u201cThe State of How\u201d.\xa0 Living exclusively in the day-to-day world is the enemy of vision and without vision, you are bound for a near-death experience.\xa0 The text of the whole essay can be found at www.tcagley.wordpress.com. There are a number of ways to share your thoughts with SPaMCAST: \u2022\xa0\xa0 \xa0Email SPaMCAST at spamcastinfo@gmail.com \u2022\xa0\xa0 \xa0Voice messages can be left at 1-206-888-6111 \u2022\xa0\xa0 \xa0Twitter \u2013 www.twitter.com/tcagley \u2022\xa0\xa0 \xa0BLOG \u2013 www.tcagley.wordpress.com \u2022\xa0\xa0 \xa0FACEBOOK!!!! Software Process and Measurement \xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0\xa0 http://tinyurl.com/62z5el Next Software Process and Measurement Cast: The next Software Process and Measurement Cast will feature an interview Esther Derby focused primarily on agile retrospective but we branched out to talk about agile management. As I mentioned in SPaMCAST 52 my father has begun to podcast his fiction at www.talesbytom.com.\xa0 Yours truly is doing the production.\xa0 Feel free to check it out and give him feedback