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SPaMCAST 447 features our interview with Angela Wick on the role of the Product Owner and Business Analyst in Agile efforts. These two roles are critically important for delivering value in an Agile environment. Angela provides a fresh take on the Product Owner role and the Product Owner's relationship to other roles Agile teams. Angela is the founder of BA-Squared, LLC, a training and consulting practice. \xa0She is passionate about modernizing requirements practices and helping organizations collaborate on a Product Vision aligned to strategy and guiding them to a meaningful backlog and iterations that keep the customer and organizational value top of mind. She trains, coaches and teaches organizations on Product Ownership and Agile BA! Email: Angela@BA-Squared.Com Web: LinkedIn: Twitter: This is not the first time the SPaMCAST has featured essays and conversations on the role of product owners ( for example and ). \xa0 Re-Read Saturday News Chapter 9 continues the third section of Holacracy, Evolution Installed: Living Holacracy. \xa0: The New Management System for a Rapidly Changing World by was published by Henry Holt and Company in 2015. \xa0This week's chapter is titled If You're Not Ready To Adopt: Moving Toward Holacracy. \xa0In this chapter Robertson softens his if-you-can't-do-it-all-don't-do-anything approach. \xa0 This chapter begins with a story of Robertson being asked how they can move forward in a limited manner. \xa0The person had just intently listened to a talk on Holacracy. The person explained that they could see the value, but did not have to power to change the organization or even their department. \xa0Robertson\u2019s knee jerk response was that you could not use parts; however, the response felt wrong. \xa0So he reached out the larger community of practitioners to gather their field observations for how they handled scenarios in which everything could not be implemented. \xa0Whether the story is apocryphal or not matters less than that this chapter softens the all-or-nothing stance stated earlier in the book. \xa0 \xa0 Catch up on the all of the Holacracy entries: \xa0 In approximately three weeks we will begin the next book in our Re-read series, \xa0T. Remember to use the link to buy a copy in order to support the podcast and blog. The reread will be led by Steven Adams. \xa0\xa0I am looking forward to sitting on the other side of the table during the next re-read! Visit the to participate in this and previous re-reads. \xa0 A Call To Action If you got a new idea this week while listening to the podcast, please give the SPaMCAST a short, honest review in iTunes, Stitcher or wherever you are listening. \xa0If you leave a review please send a copy to . \xa0Reviews help guide people to the cast! \xa0 Next SPaMCAST SPaMCAST 448 will feature our essay on uncertainty. Al Pittampalli said, \u201cuncertainty and complexity produce anxiety we wish to escape\u201d. Dealing with uncertainty is part of nearly everything we do. \xa0 The second column will feature Steve Tendon talking about Tame The Flow: Hyper-Productive Knowledge-Work Performance, The TameFlow Approach and Its Application to Scrum and Kanban published J Ross (). We tackle Chapter 18. \xa0 Our third column will be from Jeremy Berriaul.t. Jeremy discusses leading in \xa0QA. \xa0Jeremy \xa0blogs at \xa0 Shameless Ad for my book! co-authored by Murali Chematuri and myself and published by J. Ross Publishing. We have received unsolicited reviews like the following: \u201cThis book will prove that software projects should not be a tedious process, for you or your team.\u201d Support SPaMCAST by buying the book nglish and Chinese.