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The Software Process and Measurement Cast features our interview with Woody Zuill.\xa0 We talked about the concept and controversy swirling around #NoEstimates. Even if the concept is a bridge too far for you, the conversation is important because we talked about why thinking and questioning is a critical survival technique. As Woody points out, it is important to peer past the \u201cthou musts\u201d to gain greater understanding of what you should be doing!\nWoody Zuill has been programming computers for 30+ years. Over the last 15+ years he has worked as an Agile Coach, Trainer, and Extreme Programmer and now works with Industrial Logic as a Trainer/Coach/Consultant for Agile and Lean software development. He believes code must be simple, clean, and maintainable to realize the Agile promise of Responding to Change.\xa0\nContact InformationMob Programming:\xa0Blog:\xa0Twitter:\xa0\nCall to action!\nI have a challenge for the Software Process and Measurement Cast listeners for the next few weeks.\xa0 I would like you find one person that you think would like the podcast and introduce them to the cast.\xa0 This might mean sending them the URL or teaching how to download podcasts.\xa0 If you like the podcast and think it is valuable they will be thankful to you for introducing them to the Software Process and Measurement Cast! Thank you in advance!\nRe-Read Saturday News\nWe have just begun the Re-Read Saturday of\xa0.\xa0We are off to a rousing start beginning with the Tar Pit.\xa0\xa0 Get a copy now and start reading!\nThe Re-Read Saturday and other great articles can be found on the\xa0.\nRemember: We just completed the Re-Read Saturday of Eliyahu M. Goldratt and Jeff Cox\u2019s\xa0The Goal: A Process of Ongoing Improvement,\xa0which began on February 21nd. What did you think?\xa0 Did the re-read cause you to read\xa0The Goal\xa0back up for a refresher? Visit the\xa0\xa0and review the whole re-read.\nNote: If you don\u2019t have a copy of the book, buy one.\xa0 If you use the link below it will support the Software Process and Measurement blog and\xa0podcast.\n\xa0or\xa0\nUpcoming Events\nSoftware Quality and Test Management\xa0\nSeptember 13 \u2013 18, 2015\nSan Diego, California\n\nI will be speaking on the impact of cognitive biases on teams! \xa0Let me know if you are attending!\nMore on other\xa0great conferences soon!\nNext SPaMCast\nThe next Software Process and Measurement Cast is a magazine installment.\xa0 We will feature our essay on Agile Testing. The flow of testing is different in an Agile project. \xa0In many cases, organizations have either not recognized the change in flow, or have created Agile/waterfall hybrids with test groups holding onto waterfall patterns. \xa0While some of the hybrids are driven by mandated contractual relationships, the majority are driven by lack of understanding or fear of how testing should flow in Agile projects.\nWe will also have new installments from Jeremy Berriault\u2019s QA Corner.\xa0 Jeremy, is a leader in the world of quality assurance and testing and was originally interviewed on the\xa0. The third column features Steve Tendon discussing more of his great new book,\xa0.\xa0\nShameless Ad for my book!\n\xa0co-authored by Murali Chematuri and myself and published by J. Ross Publishing. We have received unsolicited reviews like the following: \u201cThis book will prove that software projects should not be a tedious process, neither for you or your team.\u201d Support SPaMCAST by buying the book\xa0\nnglish and Chinese.