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Computers and information technology are getting more and more integrated into our daily lives, so they need to be easy to use. But recent, historically large data breaches have demonstrated the need to make systems more secure and to protect information about individuals. How will the security\u2212privacy\u2212usability triangle successfully accommodate the challenges that the future will bring? In this podcast, Dr. Lorrie Faith Cranor, director of CyLab, sits down with Bobbie Stempfley, director of the SEI\u2019s CERT Division, to talk about the future of cyber in security and privacy.