Veronica meets with philosopher Dr. Peg O' Conner author of 'Higher and Friendly Powers: Transforming Addiction and Suffering'. They discuss what spirituality is, how they interpret the 12-steps. What spirituality is essential to sobriety and how it can also block people in sobriety.\n\xa0\nTo learn more, visit the show notes.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices