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Is your need to be right getting in the way of your relationship?

It's a trait that award-winning public speaker, best-selling author and stubbornness expert, Michael McQueen, has had to unlearn.

Michael and his wife, theatre-maker and lecturer Hailey McQueen, are dropping pearls of wisdom all over the bathroom floor today. They chat to Cam and Ali about negotiating differences in a relationship, navigating loss early into dating, career rough patches, poor fashion decisions, stubborn kids, and the incongruity of driving to Centrelink in a Lexis.

LINKS\xa0

• Read Micheal's latest book Mindstuck: Mastering the Art of Changing Minds
• Learn more about Michael's speaking career michaelmcqueen.net
• Check out Hailey's upcoming productions clockandspielproductions.com
• Follow Michael on Instagram @michaeljmcqueen
• Follow Hailey on Instagram @haileymcqueen
• Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo.\xa0
• Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo.\xa0
• Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial.\xa0

Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au.\xa0

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