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This week Craig McLuckie, VP-Modern Applications Platform Business Unit at VMware, sits down with Corey to discuss his beginning with Google Compute Engine in the early days of the cloud, and his time at the forefront of Kubernetes and Docker. He discusses VMWare, and what exactly modern applications hope to achieve there, and what the next steps look like. \n\nCraig has always been at the forefront of innovation, especially in regard to the cloud. His storied history speaks to this and it stands at the center of Craig\u2019s contributions to the field. Craig and Corey\u2019s conversation covers a wide range that embodies Craig\u2019s own trajectory, tune in for the whole story!