In this podcast Adam Boileau and Tom Uren talk about what there is to learn from Mandiant\u2019s report into the GRU Sandworm crew. Are the Russians a model for other actors, or just a get-\u2018er-done bunch of pragmatists?\n\nThey also talk about an attempt to build a World Cybercrime Index, assessing different national cybercrime specialisations.