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In this podcast Tom Uren, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau talk about an EU directive that will make vendors liable for software defects. The directive sets a very high bar but is also limited in scope. It only applies to individuals and doesn\u2019t cover professional use so it is a very practical way to start changing expectations about liability.\n\nThey also talk about Session Messenger app which has decamped from Australia and set up a foundation in Switzerland. The encrypted and metadata-resistant app is catnip for criminals, so we expect that it is on a collision course with state power.\n\nThis episode is also available on Youtube.