In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about \u2018cyber persistence theory\u2019. They cover what it is, why it is increasingly popular amongst America\u2019s allies, why we think the theory is right and also cover some critiques of the theory.\n\nThey refer to the article in CyberScoop \u2018America\u2019s allies are shifting: Cyberspace is about persistence, not deterrence\u2019 in CyberScoop.