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This mini-episode is a compliment to our 2022 holiday episode.\xa0 We promised we'd eventually track down the fellow responsible for bringing the Lights of Winter to EPCOT Center.\xa0 Brian and Todd talk to Jim Heffelfinger whose 20 year career with Walt Disney World began as stage manager at the Hoop Dee Doo Musical Review at Pioneer Hall (where he met and shares a great story about our friend Billy Flanigan).\nOver the next two decades he worked with Disney Legend Ron Logan and the rest of the entertainment team to bring Christmas as we know it to EPCOT, Fantasmic to Florida, the Muppets to Hollywood Boulevard, the holidays and a parade to Animal Kingdom and the Osborne Family Spectacle of Lights to Disney-MGM Studios.\nSome of his shows, like Beauty & The Beast Live on Stage are still running today much as he designed them while others are very fondly remembered.\nThis is a fun interview where you\u2019ll learn a lot and, of course, we ask him for memories of Ron Logan and Dick Nunis and invite him to a future RetroMagic event.\nJim Heffelfinger is an unsung hero of holidays in Walt Disney World and many beloved live shows. Enjoy the interview.