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In this week\u2019s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Susan F. Tierney, a senior advisor at Analysis Group and chair of the board of directors at Resources for the Future, about the future of fossil fuels in the United States. Tierney discusses the challenges of meeting climate goals while maintaining energy security, the importance of making energy accessible to citizens, and how to support communities and states that historically have depended on the coal and oil and gas industries for jobs and public revenue.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cAccelerating Decarbonization in the United States: Technology, Policy, and Societal Dimensions\u201d by Stephen W. Pacala, Danielle Deane-Ryan, Alexandra Fazeli, Julia H. Haggerty, Chris T. Hendrickson, Roxanne Johnson, Timothy C. Lieuwen, Vivian E. Loftness, Carlos E. Mart\xedn, Michael A. M\xe9ndez, Clark A. Miller, Jonathan A. Patz, Keith Paustian, William Pizer, Ed Rightor, Patricia Romero-Lankao, Devashree Saha, Kelly Sims Gallagher, Susan F. Tierney, and William Walker; https://nap.nationalacademies.org/resource/25931/interactive/\n\n\u201cCommunity Engagement for an Equitable Energy Transition, with Julia Haggerty\u201d from \u201cResources Radio\u201d; https://www.resources.org/resources-radio/community-engagement-for-an-equitable-energy-transition-with-julia-haggerty/\n\n\u201cOur Homes and Our Climate, with Carlos Mart\xedn\u201d from \u201cResources Radio\u201d; https://www.resources.org/resources-radio/our-homes-and-our-climate-with-carlos-martin/\n\n\u201cThe Covenant of Water\u201d by Abraham Verghese; https://www.abrahamverghese.org/the-covenant-of-water/