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This week, host Kristin Hayes talks with George Kamiya, an analyst at the International Energy Agency (IEA) and an expert on the emissions of information and communications technology. Kamiya leads the IEA's analysis on the energy impact of digital technologies and coordinates cross-agency efforts on tracking clean energy progress, digitalization, and automated and shared mobility. Kamiya and Hayes discuss the environmental footprint of the many digital technologies that have now become fixtures of many of our lives. The discussion focuses on energy consumption\u2014Kamiya's primary area of expertise\u2014but also touches on other broader issues and impacts, along with some technologies that most people probably don't use on a daily basis, such as Bitcoin mining. While some recent sensational media coverage has suggested otherwise, Kamiya emphasizes that the environmental impacts of digital technologies still pale in comparison to those of bigger sectors, such as transportation and industry.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cFactcheck: What is the carbon footprint of streaming video on Netflix?\u201d by George Kamiya; https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-streaming-video-on-netflix\n\n\u201cCalculate your emissions\u201d data tool, from the International Energy Agency; https://www.iea.org/commentaries/the-carbon-footprint-of-streaming-video-fact-checking-the-headlines\n\n\u201cBitcoin energy use\u2014mined the gap\u201d by George Kamiya; https://www.iea.org/commentaries/bitcoin-energy-use-mined-the-gap\n\n\u201cDigitalisation and Energy\u201d from the International Energy Agency; https://www.iea.org/reports/digitalisation-and-energy\n\nCarbon Brief newsletter; https://www.carbonbrief.org/daily-weekly-briefing-sign-up\n\n"The Citizen\u2019s Guide to Climate Success" by Mark Jaccard; https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/citizens-guide-to-climate-success/49D99FBCBD6FCACD5F3D58A7ED80882D\n\n\u201cThe AI Revolution: The Road of Superintelligence\u201d from the Wait But Why blog by Tim Urban; https://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-1.html\n\n\u201cTackling Climate Change with Machine Learning\u201d interactive summary; https://www.climatechange.ai/summaries