In this week\u2019s episode, host Margaret Walls talks with Grace Wu, an assistant professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara, about the intersection of land use change and the adoption and implementation of clean energy technologies. Wu discusses the impacts of land use change on species and ecosystems, the land use requirements of different clean energy technologies, and strategies that can help us meet net-zero energy targets while minimizing negative impacts on habitats and ecosystems.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cMinimizing habitat conflicts in meeting net-zero energy targets in the western United States\u201d by Grace C. Wu, Ryan A. Jones, Emily Leslie, James H. Williams, Andrew Pascale, Erica Brand, Sophie S. Parker, Brian S. Cohen, Joseph E. Fargione, Julia Souder, Maya Batres, Mary G. Gleason, Michael H. Schindel, and Charlotte K. Stanley; https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204098120\n\n\u201cClean Energy Solutions that Protect People and Nature in the West\u201d from The Nature Conservancy; https://www.nature.org/en-us/what-we-do/our-priorities/tackle-climate-change/climate-change-stories/power-of-place/\n\n\u201cDoes the world need hydrogen to solve climate change?\u201d by Simon Evans and Josh Gabbatiss; https://www.carbonbrief.org/in-depth-qa-does-the-world-need-hydrogen-to-solve-climate-change/\n\n\u201cCarbon Brief\u201d website; https://www.carbonbrief.org/\n\n\u201cHow green are biofuels? Scientists are at loggerheads\u201d by Dan Charles; https://knowablemagazine.org/article/food-environment/2022/how-green-are-biofuels\n\n\u201cKnowable\u201d Magazine; https://knowablemagazine.org/