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In this week\u2019s episode, host Margaret Walls talks with Temple Stoellinger, an associate professor at the University of Wyoming, about state trust lands, which are public lands that states own and must use to raise revenue for public schools and other public beneficiaries. Stoellinger discusses how state trust lands historically have been used; the existing and potential uses of these lands for conservation; the legal and policy barriers to conservation efforts; and additional uses of these lands, including energy development and livestock grazing.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cValuing conservation of state trust lands\u201d by Temple Stoellinger; https://www.americanbar.org/groups/environment_energy_resources/publications/trends/2022-2023/march-april-2023/valuing-conservation/\n\n\u201cOpening the Range: Reforms to Allow Markets for Voluntary Conservation on Federal Grazing Lands\u201d by Shawn Regan, Temple Stoellinger, and Jonathan Wood; https://dc.law.utah.edu/ulr/vol2023/iss1/4/\n\n\u201cAllow \u2018nonuse rights\u2019 to conserve natural resources\u201d by Bryan Leonard, Shawn Regan, Christopher Costello, Suzi Kerr, Dominic P. Parker, Andrew J. Plantinga, James Salzman, V. Kerry Smith, and Temple Stoellinger; https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abi4573\n\n\u201cStolen\u201d by Ann-Hel\xe9n Laestadius; https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Stolen/Ann-Helen-Laestadius/9781668007167\n\n\u201cEager: The Surprising, Secret Life of Beavers and Why They Matter\u201d by Ben Goldfarb; https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/eager-paperback/