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In this week\u2019s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Kim Stanley Robinson, acclaimed author of many books, most recently \u201cThe Ministry for the Future.\u201d Robinson\u2019s books vividly illustrate some of the most devastating potential consequences of climate change, but that\u2019s not all they do\u2014the books also offer innovation and optimism, imagining the ways in which we can prevent some of the worst impacts of climate change and adapt to the impacts that are unavoidable. Robinson discusses his recent visit to COP 26 and his views on climate economics, modern monetary theory, space opera, and more.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cThe Ministry for the Future\u201d by Kim Stanley Robinson; https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780316300162/\n\n\u201cThe Price of Peace: Money, Democracy, and the Life of John Maynard Keynes\u201d by Zachary D. Carter; https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/563378/the-price-of-peace-by-zachary-d-carter/\n\n\u201cImproving Discounting in the Social Cost of Carbon\u201d by Brian Prest, William Pizer, and Richard Newell; https://www.resources.org/archives/improving-discounting-in-the-social-cost-of-carbon/\n\n\u201cDoughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist\u201d by Kate Raworth; https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/doughnut-economics-paperback/\n\nThe concept of \u201ccarbon currency\u201d by Delton Chen; https://globalcarbonreward.org/carbon-currency/\n\n\u201cHypothesis for a Risk Cost of Carbon: Revising the Externalities and Ethics of Climate Change\u201d by Delton B. Chen, Joel van der Beek, and Jonathan Cloud; https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-03152-7_8\n\n\u201cBreaking Boundaries: The Science of Our Planet\u201d by David Attenborough and Johan Rockstr\xf6m; https://www.netflix.com/title/81336476