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In this week\u2019s episode, host Kristin Hayes talks with\u202fSuzi Kerr, chief economist at Environmental Defense Fund. Kerr\u2019s areas of expertise include emissions pricing, climate change policy, land use, and\u2014most relevant for this podcast episode\u2014international climate cooperation. Kerr originally hails from New Zealand, where she helped found Motu, an economics and public policy research institution that serves the needs of Kiwi decisionmakers. Kerr is the second podcast guest in our three-part series on COP26. She shares her reflections on the action at COP26 to date\u2014major agreements that already have been forged, deals that have been scuttled, and key issues still on the negotiating table\u2014with a particular lens on developing-country interests.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cTears of Rangi: Experiments Across Worlds\u201d by Anne Salmond; https://aucklanduniversitypress.co.nz/tears-of-rangi/