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In this week\u2019s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Alexander Gazmararian, a doctoral candidate at Princeton University, and Dustin Tingley, a professor at Harvard University. They discuss how a national transition to a clean energy system may affect communities with economies that historically have depended on fossil fuel production; the moral, economic, and political reasons for the US government to oversee a energy transition in these communities; and how a bottom-up approach to policy could help facilitate the transition.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cUncertain Futures: How to Unlock the Climate Impasse\u201d by Alexander F. Gazmararian and Dustin Tingley; https://www.uncertainfuturesbook.com/\n\n\u201cCan Federal Efforts Help Build Economic Resilience in New Mexico\u2019s Oil and Gas Communities?\u201d by Daniel Raimi and Zachary Whitlock; https://www.rff.org/publications/reports/economic-resilience-new-mexico-oil-and-gas-communities-energy-transition/\n\n\u201cThe Fight to Save the Town\u201d by Michelle Wilde Anderson; https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Fight-to-Save-the-Town/Michelle-Wilde-Anderson/9781501195990\n\n\u201cHow We Survive\u201d podcast; https://www.marketplace.org/collection/using-tech-to-adapt-to-climate-change/\n\n\u201cWhite Gold\u201d episode of the \u201cHow We Survive\u201d podcast; https://www.marketplace.org/shows/how-we-survive/white-gold/\n\nHeatmap News; https://heatmap.news/