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In this week\u2019s episode, host Daniel Raimi talks with Paul Joskow, an economics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a member of the President\u2019s Council at Resources for the Future. Joskow has had a long and distinguished career that spans a wide range of energy and environmental topics. In his conversation with Raimi, Joskow discusses his new working paper about the challenges related to expanding the electricity grid. Growing the grid will be a critical component for achieving long-term decarbonization goals, but growth comes with a lot of hurdles. Joskow describes those hurdles, alongside what solutions might help knock them down.\n\nReferences and recommendations:\n\n\u201cFacilitating Transmission Expansion to Support Efficient Decarbonization of the Electricity Sector\u201d by Paul L. Joskow; http://ceepr.mit.edu/publications/working-papers/758\n\n\u201cChurchill: Walking with Destiny\u201d by Andrew Roberts; https://www.andrew-roberts.net/books/churchill-walking-destiny/\n\n\u201cFranklin and Winston: An Intimate Portrait of an Epic Friendship\u201d by Jon Meacham; https://www.jonmeacham.com/book/franklin-and-winston-an-intimate-portrait-of-an-epic-friendship/\n\nBooks by John le Carr\xe9; https://johnlecarre.com/\n\n\u201cNetworks of Power: Electrification in Western Society, 1880\u20131930\u201d by Thomas Parker Hughes; https://jhupbooks.press.jhu.edu/title/networks-power\n\n\u201cA French Village\u201d television series; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_village_fran%C3%A7ais\n\n\u201cCome From Away\u201d play; https://comefromaway.com/\n\n\u201cThe Polio Crusade\u201d documentary; https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/polio/