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Marty Makary, MD, MPH, is a surgeon at Johns Hopkins. He\u2019s a professor of surgery and health policy and management at Johns Hopkins University. And he\u2019s also the author of The Price We Pay and Unaccountable. I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Makary last week, and I learned a lot. For one, the worst is between now and June. For two, it\u2019s all about ramping up capacity as fast as possible in our hospitals. We talk a lot, Dr. Makary and I, about what that looks like and what other stakeholders like employers and Pharma can be doing right now in this very, very reactionary phase.

Spoiler alert: On Thursday this week, a second episode with Dr. Makary will be out. In this second show, Dr. Makary discusses the next phase of this pandemic when all of the pent-up demand becomes a backlog of patients who need care for everything else besides COVID over the summer.

Martin \u201cMarty\u201d Makary, MD, MPH, is an American surgeon, New York Times best-selling author, and Johns Hopkins health policy expert. He has written for The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Time, Newsweek, and CNN and appears on NBC and Fox News. He has written extensively on organizational culture, the science of measuring quality in medicine, and health care reform. Dr. Makary is the author of two best-selling books: Mama Maggie, a book about a Nobel Prize nominee, and Unaccountable, a book about health care transparency. He also recently released The Price We Pay: What Broke American Health Care\u2014and How to Fix It. This book offers a road map for everyday Americans and business leaders to get a better deal on their health care and profiles the disruptors who are innovating medical care.\xa0

Dr. Makary is principal investigator of a Robert Wood Foundation grant to lower health care costs in the United States by creating physician-endorsed measures of appropriate medical care and directs the national \u201cImproving Wisely\u201d project to reduce waste in medicine. He speaks nationally on disruptive innovation in health care. Dr. Makary is a frequent medical commentator of NBC and Fox News, commenting on the health care cost crisis, the impact of new technology, and interpreting the latest medical research for everyday consumers. Dr. Makary is director of the Center for Opioid Research and Education and founder of solvethecrisis.org, a Web site that shares expert opioid prescribing recommendations for common medical procedures for clinicians and patients.\xa0

At Johns Hopkins, he has served as the endowed chair of gastrointestinal surgery, director of surgical quality and safety, and founding director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Surgical Outcomes Research and Clinical Trials. Dr. Makary is a surgical oncologist specializing in minimally invasive surgery and teaches health policy and management at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. He currently serves as the chief of the Johns Hopkins Center for Islet Transplantation and director of the appropriateness in medicine project.

01:38 What happened that made Marty Makary sound the alarm bells on COVID-19.
03:12 Paul Kennedy\u2019s The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers.
04:21 \u201cEveryone has an opinion, but no one\u2019s listening.\u201d
06:00 What the next 4-6 weeks will look like.
08:22 What we should do to support our highest-risk patients: health care workers.
09:16 How long will this initial phase last?
13:10 What business leaders should be doing right now.
16:11 \u201cCritical care generally pays very well.\u201d
17:15 Marty\u2019s concern for rural hospitals.
17:30 \u201cIf we\u2019re going to overfund [something], I\u2019d like it to be our hospitals.\u201d
20:54 \u201cI think the pharma industry has also gotten a wake-up call \u2026 Maybe we should start working on viruses.\u201d
24:04 \u201cWe\u2019re at war with COVID-19 right now.\u201d
25:32 \u201cWe need to help researchers that are working specifically on lowering deaths from COVID-19.\u201d
28:23 \u201cAnything that can wait 3 months must wait 3 months.\u201d
30:37 \u201cWe need everybody.\u201d
31:38 \u201cHospitals need to be focused on building capacity, number one.\u201d

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\u201cEveryone has an opinion, but no one\u2019s listening.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

What will the next 4-6 weeks look like? @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

How can we support #healthcareworkers, who are at highest risk for contracting COVID-19? @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

How long will this initial phase last? @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

What should business leaders be doing right now? @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cCritical care generally pays very well.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cIf we\u2019re going to overfund [something], I\u2019d like it to be our hospitals.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

The concern for #ruralhospitals. @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cI think the pharma industry has gotten a wake-up call \u2026 Maybe we should start working on viruses.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cWe\u2019re at war with COVID-19 right now.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cWe need to help researchers that are working specifically on lowering deaths from COVID-19.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cAnything that can wait 3 months must wait 3 months.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cWe need everybody.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

\u201cHospitals need to be focused on building capacity, number one.\u201d @MartyMakary talks #healthcare and #hospital #coronavirus action steps. #healthcarepodcast #podcast #digitalhealth #healthtech #covid19

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