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This week we sit down with Jonathan Cutrell.\nHe's the host of the beloved podcast Developer Tea and co-found Spec, the very Network that this show belongs to.\n\nNow, when podcasters get together and talk. They talk... for hours.\nSo this is part one of a two parter.\n\nToday, we glean from Jonathan's transition from musician to developer.\nWe discover how constrained systems like music primed him for life as a developer, and the ways in which all systems being infused with our humanity.\nWe talk about how to keep doing work you love and finding, or creating, a company that will help you do.